On this podcast, Dr. Hotze speaks with famend doctor and writer, Dr. Carolyn Dean, in regards to the immune system, intestine well being, yeast overgrowth and magnesium. Dr. Carolyn Dean is a board-certified medical and naturopathic physician who’s known as “The Physician of the Future.” Dr. Dean has written quite a few books, together with The Yeast Connection and Girls’s Well being together with William G. Criminal, M.D., and The Magnesium Miracle.
Podcast Highlights:
3:11: Dr. Dean: You’ve settled on the 2 matters that I believe are an important for well being, for persistent well being, yeast overgrowth within the intestines and magnesium deficiency. I say they’re associated to autoimmune illness and most every part that persons are affected by.
3:49: Dr. Dean: After which once we’re feeding them with sugar and taking cortisone medicine and ladies taking the contraception capsule, it units these yeast off so that they overgrow. They crawl up into the small gut after which begin poking holes within the small gut, and that’s known as the leaky intestine.
4:35: Dr. Dean: And with yeast, what occurs is there’s 178 totally different yeast toxins that may be absorbed by way of that leaky intestine into the bloodstream, into your tissues, cross reacting with organs and hormones, providing you with mind fog, providing you with rashes, signs from head to foot, which medical doctors ignore. Medical medical doctors, allopathic medication, might ignore all this and deal with the signs.
6:51: Dr. Hotze: The yeast is sort of a fungus amongst us, and it will get in and it produces toxins and people toxins depress our immune system. And when your immune system’s depressed, it makes you extra vulnerable to infections now, and when you have allergy symptoms, you get the persistent drainage and all that, and it’s a tradition medium for micro organism.
8:13: Dr. Hotze: If in case you have yeast in your intestine and down in your colon and also you’re consuming a excessive, easy carbohydrate eating regimen, you’re consuming sugars, you’re consuming pizza, pasta, cookies, truffles, you’re consuming potatoes, rice, and corn merchandise, which all are easy carbohydrates, that are starches, that are sugar molecules, they convert to sugar.
13:31: Dr. Dean: I’ve a stabilized ion of silver, and silver is superb within the ionic type. I’m not speaking about colloidal compounds of silver. I’m speaking a couple of silver ion that may get into the cells. And the factor about this picometer-sized silver is it really stimulates stem cell manufacturing. And we don’t want stem cells to deal with yeast, nevertheless it’s simply type of a sidebar of how highly effective silver might be within the physique.
14:24: Dr. Dean: So you’ve a intestine that’s wounded with this leakiness, and you’ve got an overgrowth of yeast, so that you want one thing like Pico Silver that may heal the intestine and can deal with the yeast. And it additionally neutralizes the Herxheimer impact, the die-off that folks get, the place folks simply can’t stand to take a yeast therapy as a result of they really feel worse as all these yeast are dying off, and the 178 totally different yeast toxins are flooding the physique
17:13: Dr. Hotze: …magnesium is a pure mineral that’s required by the physique for actually lots of of assorted enzymatic reactions. And in significantly, for the manufacturing of power inside the mitochondria, which is your energy plant.
17:36: Dr. Dean: Nicely, it’s not simply lots of anymore. I’ve obtained it as much as a thousand enzyme programs require magnesium, and I obtained that from a Dr. Workinger, W-O-R-Ok-I-N-G-E-R. He mentioned that 80% of recognized metabolic capabilities require magnesium.
18:39: Dr. Dean: I had coronary heart palpitations, leg cramps, sore neck and shoulder, all of the signs of magnesium deficiency.
19:12: Dr. Dean: We want to have the ability to take sufficient magnesium to saturate us from head to toe to take care of these 1,000 enzyme programs. Each nerve within the physique, each muscle, when you have a nerve twitch, that’s magnesium deficiency. Muscle spasms, your coronary heart is a giant muscle. When it spasms and goes right into a coronary heart assault, that’s magnesium deficiency.
22:53: Dr. Dean: Our magnesium, the ReMag, is just not laxative, however folks’s bowel actions get again to regular as a result of the muscle tissues are working correctly, and it’s fairly unimaginable.
25:16: Dr. Hotze: If in case you have an issue with migraine complications, and if it’s not hormonally-related, consider magnesium. We now have seen magnesium resolve migraine complications dramatically, which is a complete lot higher than getting on a bunch of medicine, people.
Podcast Transcription:
Dr. Hotze: Welcome to Dr. Hotze’s Wellness Revolution. I consider each certainly one of you must have a doctor and a employees of pros who can coach you on a path of well being and wellness naturally, in order you mature, you take pleasure in higher high quality of life. You will have power, vitality, and enthusiasm for all times.
Immediately, we’re happy to talk with a long-time buddy of ours who’s a famend doctor, a medical physician, in addition to a naturopathic physician. Meaning she takes pure approaches to well being. And admittedly, she has levels in each allopathic medication, so she has a medical diploma, and she or he went again to highschool and obtained a naturopathic medical diploma, as effectively, and she or he now lives in Hawaii on the island of Maui. That is Dr. Carolyn Dean, who has written The Magnesium Miracle, amongst 50 or so different books she’s written in her spare time when she wasn’t having fun with life on the attractive island of Maui. She writes books and she or he has been an incredible assist to me personally, and to all our visitors that we service, as a result of she launched me to the advantages of magnesium in her guide, The Magnesium Miracle, and this goes again 30 years. You wrote that guide what number of years in the past?
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Nicely, it was the late ’90s.
Dr. Hotze: It was…
Dr. Carolyn Dean: So, sure, oh, my gosh, sure.
Dr. Hotze: So anyway, Dr. Carolyn Dean, we’re happy to have you ever. And at the moment what we actually need to do is deal with, for our listeners, how they will strengthen their immune system, how they are often wholesome, and we’re going to speak about these issues that adversely have an effect on our immune system, what we are able to do to make our immune programs more healthy. And we’re going to start out with what most individuals by no means take into consideration, so far as good well being. We’re going to start out with the intestine. We’re going to start out with the intestines. We’re going to start out with our digestive tract, as a result of the outdated adage is, except you’ve good pipes, it’s important to preserve your pipes clear to be wholesome.
And I used to be taught that by a really, very outstanding entrepreneur who was very profitable. He wasn’t even a physician, and it was my dad. And he mentioned, “Son, if you wish to keep wholesome, you’ve to maintain the pipes clear. It’s a must to run water by way of the water pipes. It’s a must to preserve your sewer pipes clear. It’s a must to preserve your blood pipes…you retain your air pipes clear, all of them clear. If in case you have clear pipes, you’re going to be wholesome, and run water by way of them.” And in order that’s when my dad instructed me, so once I take into consideration the nice well being as I discovered about yeast issues, and we’re going to speak about yeast with Dr. Carolyn Dean, once I adopted that from Dr. Criminal…and also you’ve written a guide with Dr. Criminal on the yeast connection.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Proper.
Dr. Hotze: So let’s speak about yeast. Let’s speak about what causes folks to develop yeast issues of their intestine, of their gut. Dr. Dean?
Yeast Overgrowth
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Positive. Thanks, Dr. Hotze. You’ve settled on the 2 matters that I believe are an important for well being, for persistent well being, yeast overgrowth within the intestines and magnesium deficiency. I say they’re associated to autoimmune illness and most every part that persons are affected by. So with yeast, they’re residing within the intestines and so they do a job within the intestines. They’re alleged to be there within the giant gut, however once we take antibiotics and kill off good and dangerous micro organism, we depart a vacuum for yeast to overgrow. After which once we’re feeding them with sugar and taking cortisone medicine and ladies taking the contraception capsule, it units these yeast off so that they overgrow. They crawl up into the small gut after which begin poking holes within the small gut, and that’s known as the leaky intestine.
Now, what did medication do? It ignored yeast completely. I don’t assume they wished to be chargeable for inflicting yeast overgrowth with their antibiotics, so that they ignored yeast overgrowth. And essentially the most they’ve achieved, various medication, as effectively, is speaking about SIBO, small intestinal bacterial overgrowth. And what do they deal with with? Antibiotics, so that they make the yeast downside worse.
And with yeast, what occurs is there’s 178 totally different yeast toxins that may be absorbed by way of that leaky intestine into the bloodstream, into your tissues, cross reacting with organs and hormones, providing you with mind fog, providing you with rashes, signs from head to foot, which medical doctors ignore. Medical medical doctors, allopathic medication, might ignore all this and deal with the signs. So, that’s yeast overgrowth.
Dr. Hotze: Now, once I first found yeast overgrowth, it was as an allergist again in 1989 and 1990. And I’d have ladies sufferers who would are available in to see me and of their analysis for allergy symptoms, they’d point out to me that lots of them had persistent feminine yeast infections. And it was at all times, in fact…so it had been related each time they took antibiotics.
I keep in mind once I was simply doing common follow, each time I’d provide a lady an antibiotic, they’d at all times say, “Nicely, you’ll want to give me a prescription for Monistat, please. I at all times get a yeast an infection.” So I knew that occurred when folks took antibiotics. And so ladies can get not solely yeast within the colon and within the small gut, but in addition, the vagina is lined with pure micro organism, and there’s some yeast there. And when you kill off the micro organism, effectively, the yeast goes to overgrow, you’re going to get a yeast an infection. And generally they will turn out to be persistent, and so they go to the medical doctors and so they get all sort…I imply, they’ll give them injections. They do all types of loopy issues, however they by no means clear up the underlying downside.
Now, when you do clear up that underlying downside, you are able to do that. We all know you may give treatment to kill yeast, not solely change the eating regimen, however you might be handled topically with one thing like Monistat, and you’ll take Diflucan and you’ll knock the yeast, however you continue to have yeast within the colon. So, that yeast within the colon, pals, as Dr. Dean described, produces toxins. These are mycotoxins. Myco means it’s a fungus. It’s a fungus. The yeast is sort of a fungus amongst us, and it will get in and it produces toxins and people toxins depress our immune system. And when your immune system’s depressed, it makes you extra vulnerable to infections now, and when you have allergy symptoms, you get the persistent drainage and all that, and it’s a tradition medium for micro organism. Subsequent factor you’ve a bacterial an infection. They throw you on antibiotics once more, and also you begin the entire thing over and over. So that you’re getting antibiotics, you’re clearing up an an infection in your sinuses, however you get yeast. And the ladies get vaginal yeast infections, you get it within the colon, and also you’ve obtained this persistent downside, and that causes the bloating and the belching and the gasoline.
Now let me…Carolyn, why don’t you clarify to them about yeast and also you, as a lady, you’ve made home made bread, proper?
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Sure, in fact.
Dr. Hotze: Okay, you’ve made the bread. And so people, what Dr. Dean does when she makes bread, she will get the flour and she or he places the water in and will get her dough prepared, however it’s important to get it to rise. You need it to rise, and to get it to rise, it’s important to put yeast in it. And so she will get a packet of Fleischmann yeast. You dump that in a glass of water, and if you wish to activate it, you’re taking slightly little bit of sugar. You simply sprinkle it in that tumbler of water and it’ll go…it foams up, so she’s activated the yeast.
Nicely, guess what? If in case you have yeast in your intestine and down in your colon and also you’re consuming a excessive, easy carbohydrate eating regimen, you’re consuming sugars, you’re consuming pizza, pasta, cookies, truffles, you’re consuming potatoes, rice, and corn merchandise, which all are easy carbohydrates, that are starches, that are sugar molecules, they convert to sugar. And guess what? The yeast goes, “I like you,” and so they develop and so they give off the gasoline and the bloating. You get the bloating, belching, gasoline, gastroesophageal reflux, and it’s a multitude. And naturally, you go to the physician and he provides you a what sort of capsule? What coloration is it? Purple. He provides you the purple capsule, Nexium. That’s the best way he solves your downside.
So, Dr. Dean, clarify to them one of the best ways to deal with yeast as soon as you discover it. First, it’s important to discover a physician that understands that it’s an issue. And also you wrote a guide with Dr. Criminal, proper?
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Sure, Girls and the Yeast Connection, however there’s just a few issues right here. Let me simply say, Diflucan, that antifungal that’s used fairly, I suppose, successfully, however on the identical time, do you know that it’s a fluoride drug?
Dr. Hotze: Proper.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: And fluoride molecules in these drugs of, Prilosec, I believe, is even one. They bind up magnesium, the fluoride molecules, flip it right into a magnesium fluoride compound that it deposits in tendons and cartilage and causes brittleness in these areas of the physique. And Cipro is a giant fluoride drug, and what will we learn about Cipro? It causes Achilles tendon rupture. So, my concept is that the magnesium fluoride from magnesium binding with fluoride, that in these medicine is inflicting so many unintended effects that we’re not even conscious of.
The therapy for yeast overgrowth, you’ve already laid it out. It’s a must to cease feeding the yeast with the sugars. And since I wouldn’t use Diflucan, I lastly came across a components the place I created an antifungal with Saccharomyces boulardii, which is a pure antifungal. It may be utilized in youngsters for diarrhea, there’s plenty of research with that, and soil-based micro organism, probiotics, together with the antifungal. As a result of you understand your self that we’ve been attempting to deal with yeast for many years, and it retains coming again. We are able to’t simply make folks be so strict that they hate their lives. You’re consuming cardboard meals. You get no satisfaction. You are taking sturdy antifungals each infrequently. You’re feeling higher for a bit.
So, what I lastly determined is personally, as a result of I’ve had yeast overgrowth, I take this mix of Saccharomyces and probiotics each day, and my life is just not disrupted. I’ll have my dessert or no matter, have my stress, as a result of stress may also trigger yeast overgrowth. So, my therapy…
Dr. Hotze: So, identify the treatment apart from the probiotics. Spell that for me. I can’t hear the pronunciation.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Saccharomyces bouulardii, S-A-C-C-H-R-O-M-Y-C-E-S, boulardii, B-O-U-R-L-A-R-D-I.
Dr. Hotze: Okay.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: I put that collectively in a mixture known as Flora ReVive, as a result of after I’ve been in medication for about 50 years, finding out it by myself and in medical faculty and my naturopathic coaching, and I noticed that folks aren’t getting the suitable formulation. Folks love data. They hear us. They put it behind their mind, however backside line, they need assist. They need to have the ability to take one thing that works. And you understand that together with your clinic. That’s why your clinic is overflowing, as a result of persons are determined for options.
Dr. Hotze: Nicely, that’s proper. So, if anyone is available in for you and also you’ve recognized that they’ve yeast overgrowth, clinically, they do. Now, we are able to do blood exams. We used to do blood exams on all that, however we simply determined, my gosh, virtually everyone we meet has that downside, and so we put everyone on what we name a yeast-free consuming program.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Proper.
Dr. Hotze: And so what drugs will you employ while you put them on the preliminary program? Will you employ something apart from the Saccharomyces boulardii?
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Sure. It’s boulardii.
Dr. Hotze: And we use it…
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Sure. I’ll use the Flora ReVive capsules and Pico Silver. I’ve a stabilized ion of silver, and silver is superb within the ionic type. I’m not speaking about colloidal compounds of silver. I’m speaking a couple of silver ion that may get into the cells. And the factor about this picometer-sized silver is it really stimulates stem cell manufacturing. And we don’t want stem cells to deal with yeast, nevertheless it’s simply type of a sidebar of how highly effective silver might be within the physique.
It was used because the antibiotic of alternative till the patented medicine got here alongside after which they pushed it apart. However you understand very effectively that they nonetheless use silver compounds for horrible burn sufferers as a result of it’s a wound healer.
Dr. Hotze: Positive.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: So you’ve a intestine that’s wounded with this leakiness, and you’ve got an overgrowth of yeast, so that you want one thing like Pico Silver that may heal the intestine and can deal with the yeast. And it additionally neutralizes the Herxheimer impact, the die-off that folks get, the place folks simply can’t stand to take a yeast therapy as a result of they really feel worse as all these yeast are dying off, and the 178 totally different yeast toxins are flooding the physique.
Dr. Hotze: Moreover, in our therapy of yeast, Dr. Dean, we’ve additionally used Nystatin. Do you employ that in any respect?
Dr. Carolyn Dean: I used to make use of it, and I need to say, I’m not in personal follow anymore. I’m simply working my dietary complement firm.
Dr. Hotze: Proper.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: And I definitely did use Nystatin, nevertheless it was the identical factor. You needed to preserve utilizing it over and over as a result of you may’t use it each day for an individual’s life, however you need to use, as I mentioned, one thing like Saccharomyces boulardii and a soil-based probiotic.
Dr. Hotze: Nicely, that’s very fascinating, and that’s a wonderful concept. We now have at all times, although, attempt to encourage our visitors to remove carbohydrates and to vary the best way they consider consuming. So we encourage slicing out your…
Dr. Carolyn Dean: After all.
Dr. Hotze: Initially we remove them for a interval of a number of months, deal with them for the yeast, get that beneath management, after which they will add that again in sometimes. However on the identical time, we actually promote them to start to assume by way of consuming a yeast-free, ketogenic-friendly eating regimen, so we’re excessive on good, wholesome oils and fat. And I don’t know the place you come down on that, on the keto consuming…
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Oh, sure.
Dr. Hotze: …however we advocate good wholesome oils and fat, good wholesome greens, and slightly little bit of meat, principally, and attempt to eat an alkaline-type eating regimen with a variety of greens.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Sure. Nicely, the factor is…and I definitely comply with a keto eating regimen myself. It appears essentially the most smart. Nonetheless, too many individuals are avoiding their greens to maintain their carbs down, so what I discovered is folks lack fibers, so I ensure they’re getting at the least some psyllium seed each day. And they’re missing minerals, as a result of they’re not getting the minerals from the vegatables and fruits that they’re avoiding, in order that’s the place I deal with…we’ll most likely have the ability to speak briefly about my magnesium, which is an ionic-size magnesium.
Magnesium
Dr. Hotze: Nicely, let’s speak about magnesium and the advantages of magnesium, as a result of magnesium is a pure mineral that’s required by the physique for actually lots of of assorted enzymatic reactions. And in significantly, for the manufacturing of power inside the mitochondria, which is your energy plant. So why don’t you speak to us about the advantages and the important…how crucial magnesium is for good well being?
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Proper. Nicely, it’s not simply lots of anymore. I’ve obtained it as much as a thousand enzyme programs require magnesium, and I obtained that from a Dr. Workinger, W-O-R-Ok-I-N-G-E-R. He mentioned that 80% of recognized metabolic capabilities require magnesium. Now, that’s large. As you say, power, six of the eight steps within the Krebs Cycle within the mitochondria that make power, six of these eight steps require magnesium. So that you’ll have a shopper or a affected person are available in and say they’re fatigued. What do most allopathic medical doctors do? They are saying, “Oh, you should be depressed. You’re not sleeping effectively. Okay, right here’s some treatment.” What will we do? We are saying, “Take magnesium. Take sufficient to saturate your physique.”
After I obtained into magnesium, the research of it, when Random Home requested me to put in writing that guide within the late ’90s, I had coronary heart palpitations, leg cramps, sore neck and shoulder, all of the signs of magnesium deficiency. However once I went to discover a magnesium that I may take to alleviate my signs, I instantly obtained the laxative impact. So, I spent 10 years looking for a complement firm that might analysis and make a non-laxative magnesium. That’s our downside. Docs, they’ll give magnesium to folks, they’ll get diarrhea, after which the affected person will stop. We want to have the ability to take sufficient magnesium to saturate us from head to toe to take care of these 1,000 enzyme programs. Each nerve within the physique, each muscle, when you have a nerve twitch, that’s magnesium deficiency. Muscle spasms, your coronary heart is a giant muscle. When it spasms and goes right into a coronary heart assault, that’s magnesium deficiency.
I’ve listed 65 situations which might be associated to magnesium deficiency which might be handled with medicine. We now have folks in our buyer base, they’ve been on a dozen medicine. They begin saturating with ReMag and so they do away with their medicine. And allopathic medical doctors don’t actually need to hear about this, and it’s as a result of, as you understand, we by no means discovered something about vitamin or dietary dietary supplements in medical faculty. They’re pooh-poohed. They’re put down. The drug firms are attacking dietary dietary supplements proper and left as a result of that interferes with drug prescription.
Dr. Hotze: That’s precisely proper. Now on the magnesium, your ReMag, what sort of magnesium is that? What salt is that? Is {that a} magnesium…
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Magnesium chloride, nevertheless it’s a stabilized ion of magnesium. We’ve achieved a research, a college research at Purdue, the place they analyze the particle measurement of the ReMag. They put it by way of a light-scattering expertise the place they put our ReMag that’s been sitting on a shelf for months, and so they put it in a transparent container, and so they shine a light-weight by way of it. The sunshine goes proper by way of. There’s nothing there to cease the sunshine as a result of it’s the measurement of an ion, picometer in measurement. So, that measurement is what’s allowed into the cells.
And what occurs with magnesium compounds, glycinate, the chelates, you identify every other magnesium compound, is that they have to attend, or the physique has to attend till the magnesium compound breaks down into the magnesium and the opposite half. And for a break up second, earlier than magnesium joins again once more to make a compound, for that break up second, it’s an ion, and that’s what’s absorbed. In order that’s why we all know now that magnesium oxide is barely 4% absorbed. The remainder of it turns into a laxative. So, it’s all in regards to the ionic nature of minerals to have the ability to be absorbed absolutely on the mobile degree the place every part happens. It’s all in regards to the cell.
Dr. Hotze: Proper. So that you advocate the ReMag, the liquid ReMag, which I’ve used. I’m not utilizing it proper now. We now have magazine citrate and magazine glycinate, and simply listening to you, most likely I’d do a complete lot higher if I went again on my ReMag. I really feel like I’m doing rather well now, however who is aware of how effectively I’d do. I’ve at all times mentioned the laxative impact is useful as a result of folks have usually instructed me, “You’re simply stuffed with it, Dr. Hotze.” And I say…[laughter]
Dr. Carolyn Dean: No, however what occurs, when you get the correct amount of magnesium within the muscle tissues of your intestines, the muscle tissues of the intestines work correctly. Our magnesium, the ReMag, is just not laxative, however folks’s bowel actions get again to regular as a result of the muscle tissues are working correctly, and it’s fairly unimaginable. Sure, you’ll see.
I imply, look, you and I, we’re in our 70s and look how wholesome we’re as a result of we do take our vitamins. However folks don’t know of how a lot better they may really feel. For instance, I’ll have prospects will say, “Nicely, I take half a teaspoon of ReMag twice a day, and my atrial fibrillation is so a lot better.” Nicely, gosh, when you took two or three teaspoons, you’d be flying to the moon, so sure. I would like you to…sure, go forward.
Dr. Hotze: Nicely, hear, I must get again in your ReMag, and I believe we carried the opposite. We did for years, so I don’t know, we’ll test it once more. However anyway, this can be a great dialog we’ve had with Dr. Carolyn Dean about yeast and the therapy of yeast and the hostile results of getting yeast in your system and how one can rid your physique of yeast. And in addition, the advantages of magnesium, and Dr. Dean wrote a guide known as The Magnesium Miracle. Now, the place, Dr. Dean, can they go to seek out this guide, and what’s your web site?
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Nicely, that guide is on Amazon, however I’ve 22 free eBooks at D-R CarolynDeanLive.com, and my product web site is RNAreset.com.
Dr. Hotze: RNAreset.com, and your different web site the place they will purchase the books is DrCarolynDean-
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Dwell. L-I-V-E.com.
Dr. Hotze: Dwell, L-I-V-E. That’s Carolyn, C-A-R-O-L-Y-N-
Dr. Carolyn Dean: O-L.
Dr. Hotze: Carolyn, D-E-A-N, Dr. Carolyn, D-R, CarolynDeanLive.com?
Dr. Carolyn Dean: That’s proper.
Dr. Hotze: Okay, so I’d extremely advocate you go there to take a look at her materials and to buy her guide, her books, significantly the guide on magnesium. We’ve used it extensively in our follow and it has been a godsend to hundreds of thousands…or hundreds of our visitors and hundreds of thousands of individuals all over the world who’ve used magnesium.
I’ll offer you one factor. If in case you have an issue with migraine complications, and if it’s not hormonally-related, consider magnesium. We now have seen magnesium resolve migraine complications dramatically, which is a complete lot higher than getting on a bunch of medicine, people. Dr. Carolyn Dean has been a pacesetter on this subject, significantly within the subject of pure approaches to well being, significantly with magnesium, so she’s the professional on this and also you’ve listened to her at the moment. Physician, thanks for becoming a member of us. We’re so happy to have you ever, and it’s so good to listen to your voice once more. It’s a sound for sore ears.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Oh. Oh, thanks.
Dr. Hotze: It truly is.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Sure. Thanks. Identical right here. It’s good to see you doing so effectively.
Dr. Hotze: God bless you.
Dr. Carolyn Dean: Respect what you’re doing. God bless.
Dr. Hotze: Okay.
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